Sounds good, but the currency of sounding good has become rather devalued as of late.


Ah man I'm sorry, I know you're doing everything that can be done in your situation and I am genuinely grateful. I hope your efforts end up being rewarded with tangible results. Please keep on trying for us.

You know, your proposals to CCP would not be covered by the NDA if you told us what they were BEFORE you talked to CCP.

Its really funny how the CSM brags how influential you all are in your blogs but when you get called on it on the forums, suddenly you dont have any power

So where are them minutes to the summit meeting in july?

You see I actually think its time for us to look at what has been done in the last three months,

No change in hanger functionality, "ship spinning".
No change in pricing of nex.
No improvement with communication.
Ridiculously sparse devblogs combined with dissapearing acts from the devs.
No content or improvements to gameplay in expansions.
Failure to deliver the racial captains quarters as promised,
manipulation of the july minutes creating yet another point of conflict and leading to a failure to release tehm.
functionality such as fittings taken away so they can be charged for later.
QEN's cancelled.


What was it hilmar said, now is the time we look at what the players do and not what they say? well the players are voting with their subs and logging off. CCP has done nothing since the july summit in any of the areas they promised they would try to improve.

So as for this little meeting yeah Ive heard it all before, mittens is deluded anyway but the rest of the CSM being so suckered by yet another "emergency meeting" is actually a dissapointment. I thought they had more intelligence than to fall for the same bull twice.

I bow to your superiority mittens!

and the rest of the point i mentioned?

This makes complete sense, and I'll be the first to step up and say, I buy that answer.

Looking forward to winter, keep up the good fight. Dont let the angry mobs get you down.

I truly do not see why do you space politicians even bother posting this type of information. It's getting so repetitive and pointless. You wave your saber around to garner some attention.. CCP lets things gestate for a few days and then low and behold it's time for a meeting. You have your meeting then regurgitate the same responses we've been hearing for years. Few months from now we will get some more space drama and the never ending spin cycle of b.s. will start over again.

Player representation is nothing more than an illusion.

THIS EXACTLY. CCP messes up - CSM supposedly to the rescue - CSM satisfied with CCP saying/promising blah blah blah... we wait... and nothing.... CSM angry... summits... emergency meetings... CSM say wait they are optimistic... then NOTHING.... CSM gets up in arms... we supposed to pay attention yet again... then CSM pleased... then NOTHING... over and over. Year after year. 'This time will be different'... don't you understand you are wearing us out? If you can't make a difference... quit. If you can... we haven't really seen it and are tired. Mitten's profanity filled speeches and Trebor's damage control not withstanding... we are feeling hopeless imo.... thats what I see. FYI a nullsec boost (since the current CSM so null-sec heavy) isn't going to cut it if that is current thought.

At this point I care less about them admitting they've chronically under-resourced and neglected core Eve Online for the last several years than in them commiting immediately to a return to proper expansions with genuinely-impressive content and feature sets that use a significant portion of their manpower to produce.

If Hillmar wants to blame volcanic ash for the crap state of Eve so be it.

Just get them to start producing Exodus/Apocrypha scale development again and I think everyone will be very happy.

They were able to do this once when they were much smaller.
There is no reason they can't do it again.
(especially not when the potential survival of their sole current income-source is at risk)